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FAD Day 2 [Jun. 9th, 2009|08:51 pm]

We picked up today where we left off. Starting off the day with a wonderful literal video translation of the horrible Bonnie Tyler 'Turn Around' music video was a bit odd, but hilarious nonetheless.

We brainstormed a bit more on the topic we had intentionally avoided yesterday, which is how we manage freezes, why they suck, etc. It's been fairly well known that freezes are painful, and the final freeze impacts both our developers and release engineering team pretty hard. This is arguably one of the reasons we had the FAD to begin with, so it was great to get the issues out in the open.

After a break, we moved from brainstorming about the problems to thinking about some of the actual solutions that we could reasonably implement. After we had been working in the issues for a while, it was starting to become apparent which were fairly easy, which were really hard, and which we should spend the effort on. I was pleased when we were able to identify a few key issues that if we really fixed them, they would make yet a wider set of issues much more simple.

The next steps for tomorrow, are to sit down with the ideas and start drafting up some proposals to present to the community for discussion. I do want to stress that we're drafting PROPOSALS, and not policies. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend tomorrow's session.

Towards the end of the day, Jesse asked whether we thought the overall FAD was worthwhile. To me, it was a two fold answer. I think it was a huge success in that the concentrated, uninterrupted all-day sessions allowed us to accomplish in 2 days what would have taken at least 3 weeks on the various rel-eng and QA lists. Working on lists and IRC is how we do business, but at times there is no replacement for face-to-face communication.

The second, and arguably most important, part of my answer depends on you, the contributors. The return on investment really comes from the submission, discussion, and hopefully positive feedback and approval of the proposals that are being worked on. I have high hopes that we'll submit some pretty good proposals with good background and information about what, how, and why the changes are being proposed. If we get a number of these approved, then I really think we can help our contributors and make the Fedora project that much better of a project to work on.

I am pretty excited about this and hoping the outcome is positive.

Unrelated: The Red Wings better win tonight, or my face-to-face taunting of Greg will be slightly wasted. There is no substitute for face-to-face taunting when you have won a bet. GO WINGS

From: ex_gregdek
2009-06-10 02:23 pm (UTC)

Ahh, don't sweat it.

No way you guys lose Game 7 at the Joe.

And your boys had better win, too. I don't *ever* want to see Cindy Crosby's name on the Stanley Cup.
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